tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2660442288269573331.post3841620564612126139..comments2023-10-24T11:43:20.085-04:00Comments on Into the Wardrobe: ChristmasAGWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12413411406742981530noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2660442288269573331.post-4245720713754948942007-01-27T23:00:00.000-05:002007-01-27T23:00:00.000-05:00right, and oh the other part of your comment. the ...right, and oh the other part of your comment. the value of mortal life. i guess i see it this way: that divine and mortal life in many ways are opposites: everlasting, temporal; perfect, imperfect, etc. But, as you said with the bible, part of our responsibility in dwelling in a mortal life is to make it joyful. you can do that and still recognize its imperfections, i think. for chaucer & co (and from barbara nolan, our professor-slash-group-therapy-guru last year), accepting the temporality of mortality partly the depressing, devaluing act you mention, but also the freeing act that lets you accept, move on, and have a great time.AGWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12413411406742981530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2660442288269573331.post-42645965163530646552007-01-27T22:52:00.000-05:002007-01-27T22:52:00.000-05:00i agree totally that the message to love is the ke...i agree totally that the message to love is the key of the bible, which is what tweaks me about about so many christian fundamentalists: they just don't seem to get what that really means.<br /><br />i don't think that christ=god means that christ isn't *really* mortal. i guess we play the what-if game: what if he had died some other way than a crucifiction? what if he had chosen not to do as his father asked (as the story goes)? would he then not have been raised, and then not immortal, and then not saved everyone? to me, christ as fully man and fully divine always carries with him the potentiality (in agamben's sense) to sin, to fail. his success is not a given.<br /><br />to me the whole fully-human and fully-divine thing is exactly the nature of faith/spirituality/divine. it's impossible, so it's exactly the kind of thing god is capable of, and is proof of his god-ness. it's what my college art professor would call a bridging of eternal discontinuities; it's as if someone blended two of the color blocks of a rothko painting while being able to keep the colors entirely separate.AGWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12413411406742981530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2660442288269573331.post-74793334634860279382007-01-13T20:45:00.000-05:002007-01-13T20:45:00.000-05:00ok, this is beautiful, ania, but one of the things...ok, this is beautiful, ania, but one of the things that has bothered me about christianity is precisely this. because if jesus=god=holy spirit, then he is never *really* mortal, just faking it. and if we really have everlasting life, then we're not really temporary either. so then of what value is mortal life? the value of such has been repeatedly denied (which also leads to all sorts of sexism since women have been seen as the entry/exit point of mortality). there was a good article about this in a recent NLH (last spring i think).<br /><br />good luck with your final semester! and love to you and yours too. of all messages transcribed in the bible, i tend to think that one is the most important. (logically, it hinges on your observation: if we are dwelling temporarily in this space, we should make it as pleasant as possible for one another, rather than a state of suffering.)Jessica Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04717874657318262267noreply@blogger.com